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conjugation [2018/08/25 09:36] ob [Tempus (for indicative)] past 3, B,V,G |
conjugation [2020/04/26 22:51] (current) ob [Verb forms] does -end equal -ive? |
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| * formed by appending the suffix **-a** to the stem | * formed by appending the suffix **-a** to the stem | ||
| * like in Swedish and Icelandic | * like in Swedish and Icelandic | ||
| + | * references: [[References# | ||
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| == Open questions == | == Open questions == | ||
| Should a special infinitive marker be used like the English //to// (//to run//), German //zu//, Norwegian //å//, Swedish //att//, ...? | Should a special infinitive marker be used like the English //to// (//to run//), German //zu//, Norwegian //å//, Swedish //att//, ...? | ||
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| * add the suffix **-end** to the stem | * add the suffix **-end** to the stem | ||
| * references: [[References# | * references: [[References# | ||
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| + | == The -ive suffix == | ||
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| + | Does this participle cover meanings corresponding to English " | ||
| === Passive/ | === Passive/ | ||
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| * if the root ends with a voiced consonant (i.e. B,V,G), the suffix is pronounced, and perhaps also written, **-de** | * if the root ends with a voiced consonant (i.e. B,V,G), the suffix is pronounced, and perhaps also written, **-de** | ||
| * the perfect tenses are formed using the verb //have// with the passive participle | * the perfect tenses are formed using the verb //have// with the passive participle | ||
| + | * references: [[References# | ||
| == The de-de bounce == | == The de-de bounce == | ||
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| === Volative === | === Volative === | ||
| - | Non-second-person imperatives need to be considered, especially the first-person plural. The obvious solution is a let-like auxiliary, which could in principle be used for all persons and numbers. Example: **lat os spisen** (//let us eat//). | + | Non-second-person imperatives need to be considered, especially the first-person plural. The obvious solution is a let-like auxiliary, which could in principle be used for all persons and numbers. Example: **lat os spisa** (//let us eat//). |
| === Subjunctive === | === Subjunctive === | ||
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| (No proposals i've seen so far have conjugation for personae and numeri) | (No proposals i've seen so far have conjugation for personae and numeri) | ||
| + | ==== Inchoative and Causative Verbs and the Middle Voice ==== | ||
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| + | We should consider the issues of inchoative (becoming) versus causative (making) verbs, and very similarly, the middle voice. If you know Esperanto, this corresponds to //igxi// and //igi//. The big question is: do we copy (mostly) the natlangs and just use the same verb-forms (i.e. they are " | ||
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| + | I think it's dodgy to use adjectives directly as verbs. The provisional causative suffix is **-en**, so an example causative-verb phrase is: //ik troken de plat// (I'm drying the plate). For the inchoative version, the options are: | ||
| + | * simply use that, i.e. //de plat troken// | ||
| + | * use an inchoative suffix | ||
| + | * use a reflexive pronoun, i.e. //de plat troken sig// | ||
| + | * use the verb " | ||
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| + | Regarding the middle voice, this relates to verbs in general. An example verb is " | ||
| ==== Additional remarks ==== | ==== Additional remarks ==== | ||
| - | * mostly it is proposed to make all verbs regular, except for the one for //to be// | + | * mostly it is proposed to make all verbs regular, except for the one for //to be//. A possibility for this one special verb (from [[User_ob]]) is the following, using **ver** as the root: infinitive **vera** or **vere** (depending on the suffix), imperative **ver**, participle 1 **verend**, participle 2 **varet**, present tense **er**, preterite **var**. Note that the first three forms are regular, and the second three irregular. |
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