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Content

Classes

Lateral approximants

Nasals

Plosives

Fricatives

Semivowels

Vowels

Length

A controversial subject is the question about long and short vowels.

Remark: The vowel E has three values, i.e. long, short, and schwa. It must be decided whether, and how, the short value and the schwa are to be distinguished.

Variant 0a: No distinction

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Variant 0b: No indication

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Variant 1a: Vowel doubling

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Remarks

Variant 1b: Lengthening-symbol

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Variant 1c: Distinct letters

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Example

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Hybrid of variants 0b and 1b: Optional indication and no minimal pairs

Variant 2: Implicitly on consonant doubling/clustering

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Variant 3 (or "1.5"): Vowel AND consonant doubling

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Of course these variants can be mixed or bound to conditions (like the stress or the position of the vowel in the word).

Non-standard vowels

Another question is the inclusion of non-standard vowels, which are present in most Germanic languages:

Remarks

Consonant-cluster-shortcuts like these are more common in Romanic and Slavic languages. The orthography becomes less phonetic when using them and as shown above it starts to get weird when having short and long vowels in the language. So i guess they are only relevant if using vowel-variant 0a or 0b, since except of #1 none of the options above is common in any Germanic language or any other language i know. I tend to use the explicit forms ks, ts, … --- [[fenris@wh17.tu-dresden.de|Fenris Wolf]] 2014/10/31 11:35

Open questions

What are the names of the letters of the alphabet? A simple approach would be to let the vowels be themselves, and the consonants be themselves plus A; thus a, ba, ca, etc. This way, the names are obvious, and conflict with other words is minimised (if the letter D was di instead of da, for example, there would be ambiguity between the pronoun and the letter).

Something else that people might like to think about is the possibility of enabling "invisible little schwas", such as exist in words like apl and spasm. NB, the only other popular auxlang that does this is Idiom Neutral.

See also

Discussion

Just a note: there could theoretically be another variant, just using the most "common" spelling of each word, which would give a mix of variants. If the languages do not differ to much, or if one minimises the differences, this would give a not to complex orthography - interlingua is done in this way, keeping differences but minimizing them. If not, this would just be inconsequent and cluttery.

A way of deciding, on the other hand, would be to look in more detail on how common and widespread each system are, and chose the most common (or, as in the above, two very common).

The possible disadvantage with consequence is that it makes some words less recognizible. Depending on the individual, this may make it harder to understand. Likewise, some will probably feel like inconsequent spelling makes the language hard, and inconsequence may for others not be any bigger obstacle. I'm getting lost here, but I don't think that inconsistent spelling, nor a bit lessened recognizability is any larger problems. (And personally, inconsistent spelling hasn't been any big obstacle when learning a language.. As you probably even can see here though, I'm not sure about the English spelling in all cases. But practically, spelling errors is not that much of a flaw in the understanding and usage of a language, it shouldn't be over-estimated. One still understands the language, and can make yourself understood - the disadvantage is that it has a low status and risk making you look incompetent..).

Z and X

Are we going to use the letters Z and X to represent consonant pairs? If so, the first question is which values precisely they will take; Z will be /ts/ and/or /dz/, and X will be /ks/ and/or /gz/. A second and more esoteric question is how to double them, assuming a consonant-doubling system is chosen. The following options exist:

Decisions made so far

If you've got strong arguments against any of these decisions, feel free to add them here or visit the IRC-channel!