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 We should consider the issues of inchoative (becoming) versus causative (making) verbs, and very similarly, the middle voice. If you know Esperanto, this corresponds to //igxi// and //igi//. The big question is: do we copy (mostly) the natlangs and just use the same verb-forms, or do we make the distinction?
-I think it's dodgy to use adjectives directly as verbs. The provisional causative suffix is **-en**, so an example causative-verb phrase is: //ik trokken de plat// (I'm drying the plate). For the inchoative version, we can either simply write //de plat trokken//, or use an inchoative suffix, or even the verb "become", i.e. //de plat verd trok//.
+I think it's dodgy to use adjectives directly as verbs. The provisional causative suffix is **-en**, so an example causative-verb phrase is: //ik troken de plat// (I'm drying the plate). For the inchoative version, the options are:
+  * simply use that, i.e. //de plat troken//
+  * use an inchoative suffix
+  * use a reflexive pronoun, i.e. //de plat troken sig//
+  * use the verb "become", i.e. //de plat verd trok//
-(middle voice to do)
+Regarding the middle voice, this relates to verbs in general. An example verb is "burn" and a pair of example phrases is "the house is burning" and "we're burning the house". The simple scenario of not making a distinction yields these translations: //de hus bren// and //vi bren de hus//. How should we handle these verbs?
 ==== Additional remarks ====
   * mostly it is proposed to make all verbs regular, except for the one for //to be//

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