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| * unused letter, e.g. **c** like in Lojban or **x** like in Catalan and Portuguese? | * unused letter, e.g. **c** like in Lojban or **x** like in Catalan and Portuguese? | ||
| * diacritic symbol on another letter, e.g. **ŝ** like in Esperanto? | * diacritic symbol on another letter, e.g. **ŝ** like in Esperanto? | ||
| - | * **sc**, | + | * **sc**, |
| * **sj**? (would have the mildly adverse effect of blurring the distinction between [ʃ] and [sj]). | * **sj**? (would have the mildly adverse effect of blurring the distinction between [ʃ] and [sj]). | ||
| * [x ~ χ] ([ç] as well???)? | * [x ~ χ] ([ç] as well???)? | ||
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| A way of deciding, on the other hand, would be to look in more detail on how common and widespread each system are, and chose the most common (or, as in the above, two very common). | A way of deciding, on the other hand, would be to look in more detail on how common and widespread each system are, and chose the most common (or, as in the above, two very common). | ||
| - | The possible disadvantage with consequence is that it makes some words less recognizible. Depending on the individual, this may make it harder to understand. Likewise, some will probably feel like inconsequent spelling makes the language hard, and inconsequence may for others not be any bigger obstacle. I'm getting lost here, but I don't think that inconsistent spelling, nor a bit lessened recognizability is any larger problems. (And personally, inconsistent spelling hasn't been any big obstacle when learning a language.. As you probably even can see here though, I'm not sure about the english | + | The possible disadvantage with consequence is that it makes some words less recognizible. Depending on the individual, this may make it harder to understand. Likewise, some will probably feel like inconsequent spelling makes the language hard, and inconsequence may for others not be any bigger obstacle. I'm getting lost here, but I don't think that inconsistent spelling, nor a bit lessened recognizability is any larger problems. (And personally, inconsistent spelling hasn't been any big obstacle when learning a language.. As you probably even can see here though, I'm not sure about the English |
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| - | == The doubling idea (from user Ob) == | + | |
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| - | In a nutshell, vowel doubling is used, and accents are only necessary in special cases; for example, **ruum** [ru:m], **bu** [bu:], but **bùung/ | + | |
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| - | ^ Vowel ^ Pre cons. ^ Pre vowel ^ Final ^ Vowel ^ Pre cons. ^ Pre vowel ^ Final | + | |
| - | | /a/ | **a**,â | a,â | **a**,â | /A:/ | **aa**,à | à | aa,à | | + | |
| - | | /E/,/@/ | **e**,ê | ê | **e**,ê | /e:/ | **ee**,è | **e**,è | **ee**,è | | + | |
| - | | /I/ | **i**,î | î | î | /i:/ | **ii**, | + | |
| - | | /O/ | **o**,ô | ô | ô | /o:/ | **oo**,ò | **o**,ò | **o**,oo,ò | | + | |
| - | | /U/ | **u**,û | û | û | /u:/ | **uu**,ù | **u**,ù | **u**,uu,ù | | + | |
| - | | /9/ | ø | ø | ø | /2:/ | **ø** | ø | ø | | + | |
| - | | /Y/ | y | y | y | /y:/ | **y** | y | y | | + | |
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| - | As you can see, I don't know what to do about the front rounded vowels yet... | + | |
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| - | J-diphthongs are easy to form (**aj**, **oj**) but with U-diphthongs there' | + | |
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| - | Confession: I'm not sure what the situation is in the Continental Germanic languages regarding final vowels and vowels before other vowels (my system is English-inspired in this regard) in terms of the long/short distinction, | + | |
| ===== Decisions made so far ===== | ===== Decisions made so far ===== | ||
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| * [w] is not included | * [w] is not included | ||
| * [x]/[χ] is not included | * [x]/[χ] is not included | ||
| - | * **C/c** for [ʃ] — whether this one is used in normal words will be decided later | + | * **C/c** for [ʃ] — whether this one is used in normal words will be decided later. [[User_Ob]] says: I believe it was me who proposed this, but maybe it's too weird/ |
| * it is allowed to pronounce the letters a little different, for example **v** as [ʋ] or **s** as [z], where the sounds from above are the default | * it is allowed to pronounce the letters a little different, for example **v** as [ʋ] or **s** as [z], where the sounds from above are the default | ||
| If you've got strong arguments against any of these decisions, feel free to add them here or visit the IRC-channel! | If you've got strong arguments against any of these decisions, feel free to add them here or visit the IRC-channel! | ||
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