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fenris [Discussion] 		pos_marking [2014/10/16 14:06]
ob affix overloading
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 The POS-marking issue relates to the language as a whole, and should be borne in mind when the noun, adjective, and verb morphologies are being defined. The POS-marking issue relates to the language as a whole, and should be borne in mind when the noun, adjective, and verb morphologies are being defined.
  
-===== Discussion =====+==== Discussion ====
 I prefer to use as much word-derivation and -composition as possible. Possible solutions for the mentioned examples: I prefer to use as much word-derivation and -composition as possible. Possible solutions for the mentioned examples:
   * //sing/song//: **singe** as the verb and **singung** as the noun   * //sing/song//: **singe** as the verb and **singung** as the noun
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   * //bath/bathe//: **bade** as the verb and **bad-sted** as the noun   * //bath/bathe//: **bade** as the verb and **bad-sted** as the noun
   * //drink/drink//: (no satisfying solution yet, maybe **drink** as the noun and **take en/de drink** as the verb or a new affix for these situations)   * //drink/drink//: (no satisfying solution yet, maybe **drink** as the noun and **take en/de drink** as the verb or a new affix for these situations)
-Though i admit that this ain't possible or satifsying in all cases. ~~~ Fenris+Though I admit that this ain't possible or satisfactory in all cases. ~~~ Fenris
  
 +===== Affix overloading =====
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 +This is a continuation of the POS-marking issue. In summary, the same affix can be used on words from different parts of speech to produce words of different meanings. Here are three examples.
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 +  * Suffix **-e** for plural AND infinitive; thus noun/adjective + E = plural, but verb root + E = infinitive. If we have full POS-marking, this works nicely, because ambiguity is impossible, although to people who don't know the words there would be //apparent// ambiguity. If POS-marking is limited, however, then ambiguity becomes possible, and this can be problematic. It's not too bad with, for example, "I want drinks" versus "I want to drink", but in the case of "I want to wound" versus "I want wounds", we're in trouble.
 +  * Suffix **-er** for agents AND positive comparative adjectives. The rule would be that noun/verb + ER = person, but adjective + ER = "more ...". It is likely that many roots will end ER (**offer, bruder, fujer**, etc.) so whatever we choose, there will be //superficial// ambiguity here. The only restriction with this overload is that when a standalone adjective is to denote a person, it cannot take the personal suffix; e.g. "the good one" must be **de gud** and NOT **de guder**. And an unfortunate consequence is a "stuttering effect" in certain derivatives, e.g. "offerers" being **offerere**.
 +  * Past tense and past/passive participle the same. As everyone in the world knows (well, 10% of 'em) in regular weak English verbs, the same word is used here, ending "-ed". This could theoretically happen in Folkspraak too, although most proposals seem to insist on a distinction.
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